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Dan Aykroyd Discusses UFOs With MSNBC's Rita Cosby

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posted on Friday, June 09, 2006

'RITA COSBY LIVE & DIRECT' FOR MAY 31
June 1, 2006

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ANNOUNCER: From MSNBC world headquarters, here is Rita Cosby.

COSBY: And tonight on LIVE & DIRECT, we're going to look at the unknown, from psychic crime solvers to UFO sightings. People from all walks of life have claimed to have had some kind of close encounter with an alien life form, including actor and comedian Dan Aykroyd.

For the very first time, Aykroyd is sharing his experiences in a new DVD called "Dan Aykroyd: Unplugged on UFOs." I talked to Dan about the DVD and asked him how he first got interested in UFOs.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DAN AYKROYD, COMEDIAN: I can tell you the origin of my interest comes from my mother who claims and says she saw a UFO in 1950 in Ottawa. She knew that what she saw above Sparks Street in Ottawa that day was not a conventional aircraft. She said it was like an orb, it hung there in the sky, and then it just kind of winked out and disappeared.

COSBY: Now, Dan, you also say that you've had two encounters yourself. Tell us about them.

AYKROYD: Well, I've seen a high altitude sighting. I was in Martha's Vineyard, and I saw two very white, glowing, magnesium disks flying edge to edge in a slow zigzag pattern across the sky at about 100,000 feet, say 20,000 miles an hour. It lasted about a minute. I had three other witnesses with me, including my wife.

Can I say 100 percent it was a craft from another world or another civilization or dimension? Of course not, because they didn't come down and shake my hand.

COSBY: You believe that you've been summoned by aliens, right?

AYKROYD: Well, along with 12,000 other people. There have been...

COSBY: And how so? How so?

AYKROYD: Well, I was awoken at night. I didn't go outside. But the next day in the paper in the region—in the papers and the media, people were calling into radio stations and talking about this vision in the sky that they had, and how they were compelled to go out of their homes in the Vermont-Quebec-Ontario upstate New York border. Around the mid-'80s, this was, around—now to be around 1985, '86.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We have an unidentified flying object.

COSBY: Why do you believe, in all these cases, the U.S. government says, no, they weren't UFOs, they have explanations?

AYKROYD: Well, in fact, the U.S. government has been very interested in this for many years. In fact, there have been four separate funded U.S. Air Force and government-funded studies, Project Sign, Project Grudge, Project Blue Book and the Condon Report.

COSBY: But they have not admitted to the existence, Dan.

AYKROYD: Well, no, they have not, but they've said that 20 percent are unexplained and they can't say that definitively that what was seen was a helicopter, a planet, an aircraft, and all of these other conventional explanations.

COSBY: That is, it's possible...

AYKROYD: It's like weather balloons and swamp gas.

COSBY: But is it possible that it's just something else that we cannot explain, not a UFO, just a plane that had a weird—you know, as we're looking at video of the DVD, interesting things, but it could also be the shape of a plane, it could be something else other than a UFO?

AYKROYD: Well, it could be, but if you look at some of the photos on there and some of the shapes, you know, there's clearly no airfoil. There are no flaps. There are no wings.

COSBY: Dan, do you believe that there's a massive government cover-up about UFOs?

AYKROYD: Well, my thought is that there probably is an institution within the U.S. government that, if there is contact with these beings and control over some of these devices, it would rest with this group.

BILL MURRAY, COMEDIAN: He slimed me.

COSBY: Many people remember you from "Ghostbusters," of course, big, big film. Did that influence you? And do you believe today that UFOs 100 percent exist?

AYKROYD: Yes, I do. I believe they do. I've had my sighting. I had a telepathic incident shared with 12,000 other people, approximately.

COSBY: But did those films also influence you, you know, those films like, you know, "Ghostbusters" and others, did that play a role?

AYKROYD: Well, you know, my great-grandfather was an Edwardian spiritualist. That's why I wrote the "Ghostbusters" movies, because all that material was kind of around my house as a kid.

There's a theory that people who see these things, who have brought the alien head into our folk lore—you see it on bumper sticks and pajamas—they're doing that because they've seen movies like "Day the Earth Stood Still" and "Close Encounters of the Third Kind."

And what people are saying, that people who don't believe in these UFO events, they're saying that that's what popular culture has given us and we're taking that into our hearts, in our dreams and our minds, and we're putting it out there.

But if you look at some of the footage on the DVD, those are really unconventional aircraft that you're seeing there, and, you know, they're not weather balloons. These are aircraft that are a million years advanced more than us. We know enough to be able to design and build these things; it's just we haven't got the practical application together, and that's going to take time.

COSBY: If there are aliens among us, do they look like Coneheads? Everybody remembers you from the famous Coneheads sketch on "Saturday Night Live."

AYKROYD: "You will be spared when my species takes over your miserable planet." I think probably they look like, you know, 19-year-old Florida cheerleaders, honestly. I think they've blended in.

And I think they're here, and I think some want to make life on this planet better, to end violence and end abuse of our environment. And the video will kind of bring you up to speed onto what's going on with this movement today. And it's entertaining. And that's the bottom line, you know, Rita, is it's entertaining.

COSBY: Well, Dan Aykroyd, thank you so much for being with us. We're going to watch more of the DVD. It's really interesting.

(LAUGHTER)

AYKROYD: Thanks a lot. Appreciate it.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COSBY: And when we come back, Dan Aykroyd isn't the only person who believes in UFOs. Three experts who say Elvis, Mick Jagger and Jimmy Hendrix all saw extraterrestrial beings, we'll explain.

And later, you'll meet a psychic who may not only lead cops to a suspect, but may have started his punishment. You can decide if you believe the story, when she joins me LIVE & DIRECT.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

E.T., FROM THE MOVIE "E.T.": E.T., phone home.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSBY: Well, it's a question that's been around a long time, long before "E.T." Are we alone in the universe, or is there life on other planets and have we been visited by UFOs?

Our next guests say they have the answer. We're joined by Peter Davenport with the National UFO Reporting Center. Also, Dr. Bruce Maccabee. He is a Ph.D. with the Mutual UFO Network. And with me here in the studio is Michael Luckman. He's the director of the New York Center for Extraterrestrial Research. He's also the author of a book called "Alien Rock: The Rock 'n' Roll Extraterrestrial Connection," which is fascinating.

I want to get to that in a moment, Michael.

But, first, let me start with you, Peter and Bruce, because, Peter, you've had your own extraterrestrial experience. Tell us about it real briefly.

PETER DAVENPORT, NATIONAL UFO REPORTING CENTER: Yes. I was a kid of six years of age. I was sitting in the family car, a '53 Studebaker, at a drive-in theater, and saw a huge red light hovering in the night sky, hundreds of people getting out of their cars to see it. It suddenly accelerated and went over the horizon in perhaps two seconds, very dramatic sighting. May explain why I'm so interested in UFOs.

COSBY: And, Peter, how do you know that it wasn't just a red light from a plane?

DAVENPORT: Well, planes don't accelerate that fast. This was 1954. It was totally anomalous. Even at that young age, I was very familiar with aircraft at the St. Louis Airport. And, to this day, I'm convinced that what I saw was not from this planet.

COSBY: Bruce, what did you see?

BRUCE MACCABEE, AUTHOR: Well, I saw something in Gulf Breeze, Florida. But of more importance are the documents that I've seen from the FBI, which I got in 1977. They're in my book here, "The UFO-FBI Connection."

COSBY: And what do the documents show, Bruce?

MACCABEE: The documents show that, as early as the early 1950s, the Air Force intelligence concluded that there was a definite possibility that interplanetary ships were being sighted by literally hundreds of people, especially in 1952. There were hundreds of sightings in a couple of months.

COSBY: That's interesting. You know, Michael, lots of sightings. And, in fact, there's a new poll. I want to show this up, a recent poll, that says that 14 percent—I was surprised by this number—claim to have had an encounter or know someone who has.

Given that, why is there obviously still a lot of skepticism? I mean, if you talk to the government, they say, "We have no proof."

MICHAEL LUCKMAN, NY CENTER FOR EXTRATERRESTRIAL RESEARCH: Well, there's less skepticism now, Rita. And as far as the government goes, they didn't tell us the truth about Iraq, and they're not telling us the truth about UFOs.

COSBY: Do you believe that there are UFOs? And where is the proof?

LUCKMAN: Absolutely. The proof is hundreds of thousands of formerly top secret documents that have been pried out of the government as a result of the Freedom of Information Act. They clearly show a pattern of cover-up in knowledge in all of the major government agencies.

Moreover, the ultimate proof, the smoking gun, if you will, lies in about 200 former military intelligence people who worked at the Pentagon in the 1960s and 1970s. I have copies of videotaped depositions that were done with these gentlemen, and I am convinced that they're telling the truth about their knowledge, and they're willing to go public...

COSBY: And you're saying these are actual Pentagon officials?

LUCKMAN: Yes, they are, and employees.

COSBY: You know, let me put up a list. Employees, because in the last two years, there have been sightings in at least eight places. I'm going to get you to respond to this, Peter, because we've got sightings—this is since 2004. You've got them all over the place. I mean, you got Rochester, you got Omaha, Orlando.

How many do you believe of these sightings are legitimate? How many do you think go unreported, Peter?

DAVENPORT: Well, I suspect, out of the 1,000 legitimate sightings of UFOs, we may get only one that's actually reported in written form. Probably I would estimate that 90 percent of the time that people report UFO sightings, they're not genuine UFOs at all. It's cases of mistaken identity or something along those lines.

But the overwhelming majority of reports are not of UFOs; they're of something else. That's the job of a UFO investigator, is to filter those out.

COSBY: And speaking of investigators, you know, Bruce, you've been studying this for a while. Why don't these, if they do exist, these extraterrestrials, why don't they contact us? Why don't they come up and speak to us, shake our hand? Why is there this lack of communication, if they've come this far to come to us?

MACCABEE: Well, I don't know why the aliens haven't contacted us directly, but I do know that, if you have a sighting or something and you want to know who to call, you call UFON.com on the Internet.

COSBY: And, of course, that's the group there. You know, Peter, crop circles, do you believe they're connected?

DAVENPORT: I have a suspicion they are, but that is not my field of expertise. I've studied but one of them here in the state of Washington, and they're intriguing. They seem to have qualities that no human being could have created or duplicated, in my opinion.

COSBY: You know, Michael, your book is fascinating, because you talk about also some celebrities. And I had not heard this before. What, Mick Jagger, Elvis, John Lennon, David Bowie, Jimmy Hendrix, Jerry Garcia, what, all saw it, and how do you know this?

LUCKMAN: They've all had sightings. They all believe in UFOs. Elvis had a very strong belief as a child.

COSBY: How come we never heard this before?

LUCKMAN: Well, there's been little glimmers of information here and there, but I did some really deep research over a period of several talking to members of the families of some of the deceased stars, as well as people who just knew them very well and worked with them, and have been able to find out, through the Internet and through all kinds of other sources, that, indeed, Elvis had communication with beings of light at the age of about eight years old.

And they showed him what his life would be like in the future, how it would play out. They showed him a man in a white jumpsuit. And this, of course, was Elvis in the future. He didn't know it as a kid what that was.

Jimmy Hendrix had sightings. He had contact with a being that might have saved his life, actually, during a snowstorm in Woodstock, New York, as well as John Lennon had two sightings. In one case, according to Uri Geller, he was given an object, a physical object, which could be the ultimate—a small, brass-colored egg, that could be the ultimate...

COSBY: It's fascinating, Michael.

LUCKMAN: The ultimate proof.

COSBY: It's fascinating. I'd love to have you guys all back on again.

LUCKMAN: OK.

COSBY: Interesting, looking at—and 14 percent say they've seen it or they know someone who has.

(LAUGHTER)

LUCKMAN: Absolutely.

COSBY: Interesting topic. All right, guys, thank you very much.

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RELATED LINKS:

UFO DOCUMENTARY: OUT OF THE BLUE

The Definitive Investigation of the UFO Phenomenon (2003). An excellent video that discusses various UFO's and UFO cover ups.

Now available online!

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UFO: THE COMETA REPORT
June 25, 2006

EXCERPT:

High-level officials -- including retired generals from the French Institute of Higher Studies for National Defense, a government-financed strategic planning agency -- recently took a giant step in openly challenging skepticism about UFOs.

In a report based on a three-year study, they concluded that ''numerous manifestations observed by reliable witnesses could be the work of craft of extraterrestrial origin'' and that, in fact, the best explanation is ''the extraterrestrial hypothesis.'' Although not categorically proven, ''strong presumptions exist in its favor and if it is correct, it is loaded with significant consequences.''

The French group reached that conclusion after examining nearly 500 international aeronautical sightings and radar/visual cases, and previously undisclosed pilots' reports. They drew on data from official sources, government authorities, and the air forces of other countries. The findings are contained in a 90-page report titled ''UFOs and Defense: What Should We Prepare For?''

''The number of sightings, which are completely unexplained despite the abundance and quality of data from them, is growing throughout the world,'' the team declared.